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I've seen a few recent articles on IT's role in business. So what role do you think IT should play in BPM?

Tuesday, June 07 2016, 09:45 AM
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    Tuesday, June 07 2016, 09:56 AM - #Permalink
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    Ultimately, IT's role is to make the process solution "real". Without access to the right data and the proper services, a process solution is just a really good checklist.
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    Tuesday, June 07 2016, 10:01 AM - #Permalink
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    Supporter and enabler, not driver. But with cloud & low-code apps they often become innocent bystanders

    • Peter Hilton
      more than a month ago
      If IT are merely bystanders while other business units adopt cloud solutions, then I wouldn’t say they are innocent. IT departments that fail to help their organisations adopt appropriate cloud solutions have their head in the sand at best, and are wasting money on old-fashioned legacy solutions otherwise.
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    Tuesday, June 07 2016, 10:03 AM - #Permalink
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    IT supplies the infrastructure hardware security and the links into the legacy to be used by the new outside in systems driven by BPM principles. IT is not required to build this next generation set of applications. Build is direct with users and their input in their language. The leader in build will be business focused well within business analyst skill set.

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    Tuesday, June 07 2016, 11:28 AM - #Permalink
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    Processes & systems go hand in hand. Parts of process execution (handling the cases) is automated and the choice of IT automation will impact the execution in a positive or constrained way.

    In today's world you can't imagine how processes are executed without IT, but it starts with really knowing the process and being clear in what you want to automate...(operated in another way).

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    Tuesday, June 07 2016, 11:59 AM - #Permalink
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    Partner and collaborator with the business, sometimes driving when the business needs help articulating what they want, need to accomplish, but never pushing, just facilitating.

    Thus has it always been. For BPM and everything else.

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    Tuesday, June 07 2016, 12:13 PM - #Permalink
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    What Role should IT play in BPM?

    Depends on the corporate culture/organizational structure.

    In a project-oriented organization (e.g. heavy construction), operations are pretty much independent but need to look to HQ IT for guidance in the selection of operational software (e.g. CPM, estimating, cost control, financial apps).

    Reason: Staff are frequently transferred from one project (locally, domestically, internationally) to another and it would be very disruptive to have different sets of functionality in use.

    In large decentralized organizations you find highly independent business units that do not relate to top-down mandated choices re operational tools.

    Within hierarchical operations at a particular business entity, IT should be involved in selection of the tools that different functional units work with, particularly when processes span units.

    Here the choices seem to be to have a BA Unit, possibly within IT, but not necessarily. The BA unit can take on "roving" responsibility for process development/improvement, IT can provide BPMs support. In the absence of a BA unit, IT has to step in.

    If the culture supports individual units building, owning and maintaining their own processes, we quickly get to a discussion on "low code" and IT typically needs to attend to rule-set building/maintenance and bridging processes across silos. Silo dwellers may be able to build, own and manage their own processes but rule-set building is typically beyond their capabilities.

    The problem with the "look ma, no hands" approach arises when some units are unable to "think" process, or never get around to it. The remedy is, again, IT, or outside consultants.

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    Tuesday, June 07 2016, 12:31 PM - #Permalink
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    OK, IT should "enable" BPM. But what does this mean?

    It means that IT's role should be to enable business people to do BPM without IT.

    But more specifically this means implementing the strict segregation of IT infrastructure interface contracts per Volker's Stiehl's recipe. When this is done, then business people can truly begin to realize the promise of BPM:

    Process Driven Applications With BPMN

    Of course the definition of "IT" itself is changing, and has already done so, such that IT is more about orchestration of information management services, many or most of which are outsourced, than it is about application development or even operations.

    I get a sense though that this current state of affairs is not always reflected in our BPM conversations. To promote BPM is to figure out first who the customer is and separately who is responsible for that enabling infrastructure. To assume a traditional IT governance is miss the opportunity to sell the technology of "the language of business" to the business people who really need it.

     

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    Tuesday, June 07 2016, 03:14 PM - #Permalink
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    From the enterprise point of view, an IT department is the “most” enterprise-wide function because other supporting functions has lesser impact on the enterprise functioning.

    Considering that a typical business unit is a functional silo and typical BPM consultants are targeting “quick wins” (often quick and silo-like solutions) then ONLY the IT department may prevent a mushroom-like usage of BPM within an enterprise.

    Thanks,
    AS

    • John Morris
      more than a month ago
      Good point about IT being at the top of the mountain. I would add that accounting and finance is also there. I like to compare the two. It will be interesting to see how the two "disciplines" evolve over time -- especially as the "electricity part" of IT diminishes in favour of the "business semantics part" (i.e. "electricity" being commodity non-value-added located-anywhere IT infrastructure).
    • David Chassels
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      John you raise a very relevant point which I have discussed with my professional body ICAS. IT has a big task to handle the infrasture hardware etc. However the creation of information and assurance of accuracy is the responsibility of the accounting profession. Sadly as IT took over building systems over 40 years ago accountants lost the plot who like most business people did not understand the language used by IT. So the inside out silos of data was the result. However processes where all information is created is the accountants' responsibility and now as digital rises up agenda and software now allows outside in approach without technical complexity is moment for accountants to help business colleagues regain control over their business processes.
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    Wednesday, June 08 2016, 03:14 AM - #Permalink
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    1. enable bi-modal IT: (traditional: open up systems of record; new: create experimental framework and get out of the way)

    2. secure redundancy of internet connectivity :-)

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    • John Morris
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      So concise! Highest recorded value-per-word. Should be a poster in boardrooms. ☺
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    Wednesday, June 08 2016, 07:21 AM - #Permalink
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    Two roles for IT come to mind, depending on what you mean by IT.

    IT as internal software service provider

    The traditional view of IT is as an internal function that provides software services within an organisation, using some combination of software products and in-house software development. Traditional IT’s role in BPM is simply to make software tools available that enable BPM. You’d be forgiven for thinking that this kind of IT’s role in BPM is to waste most of the available budget.

    One particular problem with this model of IT is that it assumes that IT provides the software service, which makes it blind to Software as a Service solutions that business operations can buy directly.

    IT as technology experts

    In theory, you don't need any IT systems to do BPM, and the only technology you need are pens, whiteboards, flip-charts, sticky notes and the like. However, in practice, these tend to make a mess of your office and so people start using software, even if only Microsoft Excel.

    A broader view of IT sees its role as technology experts, which includes understanding all of the options for providing software support for BPM, whoever provides them. These days there are probably more BPM software categories than their used to be products, which means that choosing an appropriate solution requires expertise all of its own.

    If IT merely asked ‘the business’ what it wanted, they’d just ask for the BPM equivalent of ‘faster horses’*, which is how enterprise IT ends up spending twice the planned budget to roll out a bloated solution in an IT project that is probably going to fail.

    The role of IT - it the broader sense of the IT industry - is to invent killer software applications that make it possible for BPM to become a mainstream business activity, in the same way that the first spreadsheet was the killer application that turned financial modelling from an obscure niche into a mainstreambusiness activity.

    * which Henry Ford probably never said

    • karl walter keirstead
      more than a month ago
      And re

      "In theory, you don't need any IT systems to do BPM, and the only technology you need are pens, whiteboards, flip-charts, sticky notes and the like"

      someone apparently said

      "In theory, theory and practice are the same, in practice they are not":

      We still today seem to have some people who believe that "doing BPM" ends with the production of a paper process map or process model..

      Whenever I hear this I ask them if they can recall the last time they took a ride in a model airplane.
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